Times Of Swaziland: I'm not going to jail -Makhubu I'm not going to jail -Makhubu ================================================================================ MAQHAWE NXUMALO on 24/04/2013 00:00:00 MBABANE – The Nation magazine Editor, Bheki Makhubu, will not be going to jail for two years. This was gathered during a wide ranging interview with him on Monday afternoon. Makhubu said he was working around the clock to raise the money to pay the fine should it eventually be necessary to pay it. The editor of the monthly magazine was last week found guilty of contempt in that he ‘scandalised the courts’ in two articles published in 2009 and 2010. High Court Judge Bheki Maphalala sentenced both Makhubu and the publication to a fine of E200 000 each. He then suspended half the sentence for a period of five years. He, however, ordered that Makhu-bu and The Nation Magazine pay the fine within a period of three days, failing which Makhubu would be committed to prison for two years. The three days expired yesterday but on Monday afternoon Makhubu noted an appeal against the judgment. This has stayed the whole process pending the determination of the Supreme Court on the matter. "I don’t know where we would be if it had not been for the support of the people who have pledged that they will pay the fine. If not for these people, the intention of such an impossible fine would have been realised," he said, when asked whether the money to pay the fine was available. Makhubu said, in his opinion, the intention of the sentence was to destroy him and possibly shut down the publication. "You cannot ask for that kind of money when I am so small in business and give me the time frame they gave me. Like I said, this is retributive justice. It is as good as going and hanging me. In the old days they used to have public hangings, to me that is what this is – burning us at the stake," he said. Makhubu said he was not referring to the principle of law when speaking on the issue of retributive justice but he was looking at it purely from the financial perspective. "In such situations there is an alternative, you can come up with punishment that is not retributive but corrective. You cannot say you are punishing someone when you are creating an impossible position for him. Your intention is clear; to destroy," he said. Makhubu backs Constitution MBABANE – Even though Bheki Makhubu lost his contempt of court case, he believes in the constitution of Swaziland that his advocate made the better submission on constitutional law before the court. Makhubu was represented by Advocate Gilbert Marcus who was instructed by Bob Sigwane while Attorney General Majahenkhaba Dlamini had charged him on behalf of the Crown. He said even though Advocate Marcus made a ‘brilliant’ submission he did not expect to win the case. "Going into court, I did not think I would win even though I listened to Gilbert Marcus over a period of two days in a submission of three and a half hours where he submitted one of the most brilliant arguments on constitutional law I have ever heard. "I was blown out of my mind. Even though I lost I know this much; that even the Attorney General heard him and everyone who was in that court room heard him talk about what constitutionalism is in any society," Makhubu said. He said Advocate Marcus praised the Swazi Constitution for clearly outlining the rights of all citizens. "Marcus said our Constitution sits side by side with the best in the world. The difference between the American, Canadian and German constitutions is that those have assumptions. "Those assumptions, which have become part of the law in the western world, are actually written down in the Swazi Constitution so they are not left to doubt; they are not left to interpretation," Makhubu said. He said while the rights may be written down they may be inconvenient to some people. "The Constitution actually takes this country to First World status," Makhubu said. ‘... taxpayers contribute little to economy to be recognised’ MBABANE – Bheki Makhubu feels that the government does not recognise the people it is supposed to serve because the taxpayers contribute so little to the economy. He said he believes that government does not take the wishes and concerns of the public into consideration because it tells itself that the people contribute so little to the economy to have a say in how this country is run. "These days Minister Majozi Sithole is talking of a windfall from the Southern African Customs Union which has revived the economy. This money has not been made in Swaziland and we all know that money talks. The people, therefore, have no say on how this money is spent because they had nothing to do with how this money came about. When you talk about taxpayers in Swaziland, it’s more a ceremonial thing," Makhubu said. He said, in his opinion, the survival of this country does not depend on its citizens so those in positions tend to ignore them. Makhubu said the reason taxpayers contribute so little to the economy was that there were not that many local entrepreneurs to contribute to the economy. He said there were barriers which prevented local entrepreneurs from thriving. ‘King’s dream will be hard to achieve’ MBABANE – The Editor of The Nation Magazine, Bheki Makhubu, believes it will be hard for the nation to realise the King’s vision of attaining First World status because there are institutional barriers which stifle creativity. Makhubu was, however, quick to state that the vision itself is fine but he said there are structures below the monarchy which hinder its realisation. He said for the country to achieve First World status it needed innovation and innovation needed creativity. "I do not know if Swaziland allows for creative thinking for the average Swazi to come up with ideas because here your idea only goes as far as the person in authority understands it. If he doesn’t understand it, he will kill your idea," Makhubu said. He said the types of ideas which can propel a country into the First World need a mind that is without limitations in thinking, something he said was lacking in Swaziland. "What I find here is that it is not your ability to think that counts but people in authority only allow it so far. They are quick to think of who might be offended by your idea. Who might be uncomfortable with your idea? The receiver of the information, the key to unlocking your potential, instead of taking your idea and selling it to the right people, says ‘stop what you are doing because certain people might be offended, he doesn’t even check if that person really will be offended but he just assumes it," Makhubu said. He said even in business it is hard to get support as indigenous business people because people are afraid that they might face unpleasant consequences for supporting you. ... he escaped similar charges before MBABANE – Bheki Makhubu’s recent troubles with the law over his writings are not the first. He has been charged before after the publication of his work. In 1999 The Nation magazine editor was arrested and charged with criminal defamation. Details of the alleged criminal defamation cannot be repeated. In an interview, Makhubu said he spent a night in police custody and was released on bail the following day. He was charged by the then Director of Public Prosecutions Lincoln Ngarua. "Criminal defamation was a crime which existed in law but nobody knew about it. Even Ngarua had to go and dig deep to find it but I was never prosecuted because the matter was eventually struck off the roll," Makhubu said. He said the matter was before then Magistrate Lorraine Hlophe who is now the Registrar of the Supreme Court and Secretary of the Judicial Service Commission. Makhubu said the matter was struck off after the prosecution failed to show up to prosecute him. He speculated that they may have abandoned the prosecution because a case of criminal defamation would have required the person allegedly defamed to come to court to state how the alleged defamation had damaged his character and reputation. ‘Media not here to sing govt praises’ MBABANE – It should be clear to all that it is not the role of the media to sing government’s praises The Nation Magazine Editor Bheki Makhubu has said. He said governments, by their very nature anywhere, when left alone, tend to abuse power so it is the duty of the media to always keep a close eye on them. Makhubu said people can only express their opinion on leadership once every five years and in the intervening period it was the function of the media to reflect and to keep the leadership accountable and to inform the public about what the people they voted for are doing for or against them. "It is not the function of the media to sing praises of government. It is not there for that. It is there to check if they are delivering because governments, by their very nature, whether you are in First World countries from America, Canada, Germany to Australia or even South Africa, governments when left alone abuse power. It is human nature," Makhubu said. He said in Swaziland some Cabinet ministers do not think that they are accountable to the people just because they were appointed into their positions and not elected. Makhubu said this is usually the type of politician who takes offence when the media starts asking questions. He said these politicians do not recognise the people and, therefore, they do not understand when the media says it is writing to keep the people informed. "They ask you what business the people have with whatever they are doing and they say as the media siyaphapha (we are forward) for wanting to report about them as politicians," Makhubu said. The Government Press Secretary, Percy Simelane, refused to comment on Makhubu’s observations. "We elect not to entertain this perception. We expect journalists to know better how parliamentarians are elected and how some of them become ministers," Simelane said. ‘Sentence won’t change our reporting’ MBABANE – The Nation Magazine Editor, Bheki Makhubu, said he will not cower after the huge fine that was imposed on him and his publication last week. Makhubu said the fine will have an effect on the publication as a small business but they would not stop practising the type of journalism they have been publishing over the years. He conceded that his creativity as a journalist would now be affected by the ‘moods of those who have got more authority than me’. "I would not say people will now see a different Bheki Ma-khubu because I am well aware of where I am but I am also aware of the Constitution and I believe in the Swazi Constitution. I believe in human nature’s inalienable right to the pursuit of happiness," he said. Makhubu said he, however, would not pretend not to be aware of the environment he lives in. "I am not into guns, activism and regime change. I write about people who stand in our way as ordinary people. All I say is don’t stand in my way and I will continue to say this because I don’t want to live my life according to your moods just because you have authority," Makhubu said. I’m no hero, says editor MBABANE – The editor of The Nation Magazine does not consider himself a hero. Following his conviction and sentencing last week, some bloggers and online publications have described Bheki Makhubu as ‘the last true independent journalist in Swaziland’ and they have described The Nation Magazine as ‘Swaziland’s last remaining source of independent journalism’. In the wide ranging interview conducted in his office at Mbabane House on Monday afternoon, Makhubu said he was no hero. "People will praise you, people will condemn you and that is life. The question is, is what I am doing right? I think it is, I really think it is but I am not trying to be a hero. Yes, people might respect you and it is nice to be respected, every human being wants to be respected – actually that is why I am in trouble because even the people who are doing this to me also want respect," he said. Makhubu said, however, respect can be acquired in various ways. He said one can force people to respect him or one can earn people’s respect. "I don’t feel like a hero but like every other human being, I would like to be respected for the contribution I make to society but I don’t need anyone to wash my feet. It really is not about being a hero, I just don’t like my fate to be decided by the moods of another person. If I fail at something, I want to fail on my own," he said. ‘Family traumatised’ MBABANE – Bheki Makhubu said the news of his E200 000 sentence has traumatised his family. Makhubu, who hails from Luyengo, said he had to go home last weekend to calm the elders of his family who were really worried about him. "After hearing news of the sentence, my aunts nabo babe did not sleep. They were praying. These things are always traumatic for old people and obviously for my immediate family as well," he said. Makhubu said he was grateful for the overwhelming support from people from all over the world. "One American professor of Constitutional Law, I met in Cape Town asked me to send him the judgment because he did not understand how ‘these things work in Africa’. There has been huge interest in the matter," he said. ------------------------- COMMENTS: - Well, a mouth full. Reading commentry/writing from Bheki is always intriguing. Has this man ever been asked if he was a Swazi because a small fraction of Swazis behave like him. Swazis know him as unconforming and radical a thing not so common even to the educated segment of our population. April 24, 2013, 5:18 am, Gcinabakhe